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2005-01-24 [rocker_reject]: HAHA! its funny!
2005-01-24 [FireGypsy]: lol i know! =D
2005-01-24 [rocker_reject]: And its sooooo true!!!! ^.^
2005-01-29 [Analeyin]: You (public in general) could go to Anti Rap too... btw, there ar "gangsta" white rappers too... Just as shitty "music" but baggier clothes and shittier lyrics...
2005-01-30 [FireGypsy]: lol haha!
2005-01-30 [rocker_reject]: HAHA!
2005-02-06 [QueenShell]: Ah, finally found a place on EP, I like ... And I've never really found out what that coating of the teeths realyl were good for? It makes them look both stupid, and that they can't take care of their teeth so they need to hide them ... Jesus!
2005-02-06 [FireGypsy]: lol hahah! =D
2005-02-10 [jamieb]: RAP = The World
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: rap+the world = a bunch of freaking moronic losers running around in circus tents and attempting to speak about whores to a slight drub beat = sucks badly= they all should kill themselves
2005-02-16 [Chakan]: Now don't get me wrong,I am by no means a Fan of Rap,But "Rockers" do the same shit just in a diffferent way.I mean,they wear oversized clothes too(What's with the 2 foot wide pants and tight ass skin shirts that might as well be spandex if it isn't already),nor do they all talk right(Sorry to tell you,but no one speaks PERFECT English).Instead of Jewelery,Rocke
2005-02-16 [Chakan]: Come on people,Lets face it, The Rap/Ghetto world is the same as the Rock/Punk-Goth world,just one happens to be predominatley white,the happens to be predominately Black.Same shit,different faces.
2005-02-16 [FireGypsy]: Well not exactly. See most rockers are like that but they are the kind who make good music. Just look at Metallica for example. Not a piercing on their bodies. They dont wear rediculous clothes and their music is amazing. Im not talking about heavy metal so dont get me wrong. I cant stand screaming music about hate. But there are amazing rock bands out there with true true talent. Rap, there is no talent. So what is some rockers like to pierce their body or wear baggy pants, at least their pants go above their ass. All in all though they have talent. Each member plays an instrument which is way more than you can say for a rapper. Al they know is their mike, f words, and a bunch of spoken
2005-02-16 [FireGypsy]: words about drugs, killing people, and whores. Rockers talk about real like, the goods, the badsm and even if thier lyrics suck, hey they play their own instruments! Now ive bben playing guitar for years now and its hard. So dont mistake their faults for their talent.
2005-02-18 [Chakan]: Well not to be rude(All though I know it's about to sound that way),you missed my point.Rockers do the same stuff! just with a different look.Yeah okay,maybe not metallica does that sort of stuff...but that's one in how many? quite a few.And again not all Rappers do that sort of stuff that your talking about...Take Usher or Will smith or OutKast,They are all pretty clean,and Yeah,that's only a few out of a crowd,but still not all Rappers have that "50 cent" image.And rapping might not be talent to you,but you just don't understand what it is.Im not going to try to explain it either,but believe me,there is definate talent.You say all they know is there cussing and drugs,but that's not hardly
2005-02-18 [Chakan]: true.That'd be like me saying all rockers know is there Hate and sex and yes,the do sing about drugs too.
2005-02-18 [Chakan]: Rappers do rap about real life,Their not talking out of their asses...Drugs,
2005-02-18 [Chakan]: That's just being ethnocentric.
2005-02-22 [A bit more "Touch Me"]: i hate rap. Its like, a secret way to insult women. I bet that there are subliminal messages in rap that says: "Go fuck yo'self gurl, aight? and hurry yo lil behind! im represennin here, Yo?" somone needs to inform them that they are seriously lacking a clue. Plus, i hear there half off at the get-a-clue superstore…
2005-02-22 [Chakan]: Well,I can't say i've heard of subliminal rap songs,but I have heard of Subliminal messages running rampant in the rock industry...
2005-02-23 [FireGypsy]: lol yeah simple songs played backwards and saying things like "its fun to smoke marijuana" but thats not what Red was talking about. In rap, a lot of rappers like to make fun of women and such in really bad ways so Red was saying why dont they just come out and say "women such you belong in the kitchen and making my babies".
2005-02-23 [Chakan]: You don't think Rockers do that either? well pop artists for that matter...And even in that case,I'll give you that some rappers do make women out to be just peices of meat,but still,not all rappers do that.Just by saying saying some of the stuff this wiki has said is really just basing an entire culture off of a few.
2005-02-23 [A bit more "Touch Me"]: that cant be true. Rockers spend too much time singing about love and how much they hate posers. And Bush.
2005-02-23 [A bit more "Touch Me"]: And by the way chakan, goth and rock are two totally different genres, and about the peircings, thats death metal/hells angels stuff, rockers sing about love, posers and politics.
2005-02-23 [A bit more "Touch Me"]: im talking off the subject, but thats because a hadnt read what was there before until now. I agree that some rappers arent compleatly asses, but we cant help but stereo-type them, because the majority of rappers, and the most famous rappers, are asses.
2005-03-02 [wayne]: Ok, let's pretend for a second that we're not ignorant..... And let's realize that the rap that all of you are referring too is driven by consumerism. Basically, when you sign a contract with a major record label, they force you to rap about what sells, and in the eyes of the consumer it's mysogyny, violence, and drugs with an occasional song in there to attempt to talk about life with mediocre lyricism. I don't like commercial rap, except Nas, and a few others but i love hip hop music (rap), there's so much different type of rap than what you hear on the radio or mtv. It's one of the most diverse music genres.
2005-03-02 [FireGypsy]: yeah with the ugliest outfits to go with it XD lol sorry lol. well most of the rock songs you hear on the radio are the good ones, why not rap?
2005-03-04 [riddlebox_bitch]: IM STEELIN SOME OF THESE PICS..I THINK THEY ARE ALL HOT..I HAVE AN OBSESSION WIT BLACK MEN..THEYRE SO HOT
2005-03-04 [FireGypsy]: ahem, well i see someone has problems lol jk!
2005-03-04 [Chakan]: And something is Wrong with Black men?-_^
2005-03-04 [FireGypsy]: lol i said jk. I just thought it was extremely random lol.
2005-03-04 [Chakan]: Lol,I know,Just foolin'
2005-03-04 [FireGypsy]: oh by the way everyone, you should vote for me cutest girl award and vote for my wiki ^Real Vampires^ best wiki award I would be eternally greatful =)
2005-03-06 [wayne]: "well most of the rock songs you hear on the radio are the good ones, why not rap?" Well that's depends on who you're asking doesn't it?
2005-03-07 [Chakan]: Thank you!.
2005-03-07 [Chakan]: And ya know [wayne]...Im likin' how they got the most ignorant lookin' pics of some of those rappers...righ
2005-03-08 [wayne]: all the rappers that they show in those pictures...i don't give a fuck about, it's those rappers that cater to consumerism that portray the image that makes everyone hate rap. Everyone thinks it's about money, violence, and mysogyny.
2005-03-09 [FireGypsy]: no i looked up the word rapper and the first ones that popped up were those. Then i typed in gold teeth to represent the teeth thing and those popped up. So dont think i went looking for bad pics because those are ones on google under the word rapper.
2005-03-09 [wayne]: haha, like i said. All those rappers, and probaly every rapper you know, i more than likely don't like.There's some exceptions Nas...Jadakiss and Fabulous because they have clever wordplay,metap
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: omg some people are so one-track minded....u cant just respect other peoples music, nobody said u have to listen to it!! everyones got different views on whats good and whats not, what they find appealing....y
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: if you ask "whats with all the bling bling" its like us asking you whats with all the rockers having all the piercings and tattoos?? its just a part of the culture of hiphop....peop
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: and just because "google" brings up those pics when u type in rapper, it doesnt mean thats what it is...full stop. googles just a stupid search engine...how can you base anything on that?
2005-03-09 [FireGypsy]: okay ive seen rappers, they ALL dress like that, so you cant tell me that those pictures are a bad example!!! Rockers dont all have piercings and tatoos. Rappers have tatoos too! MOM on their shoulder or a huge fucking cross that no one wants to see. They need to grow up!Rappers take it upon themselves to butcher the english language and make humans look like morons. They need to learn to dress themselves, talk like a proper gentleman, and get over themselves.
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: Well nobody said that people HAVE to speak or dress the way you believe rappers should be dressing. So you're telling me that because you think it looks bad, they shouldn't do it? They take it upon themselves to make music thats real and that paople can relate to...(I'm talking abou the real rappers here....not idiots like nelly and ja rule) the rap I listen to is not a bunch of fucked up words that butcher the english language. How do they make humans look like morons? And the piercings and tattoos thing was just an example....not all rappers wear that bling jewellery, its just the commercial guys who wear it to try and portray this gangsta image....
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: its entertainment.
2005-03-09 [FireGypsy]: well im talking about the idiot rappers who make themselves look like morons. Just the other day when i was working at roller kingdom, there was this little kid, couldnt be older than 6. He was wearing a wife beater that looked like it was an XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
2005-03-09 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: they're not trying to teach them anything!! Its not their fault if those kids take the image too far like that and dress like that......and yeah, i agree that some rappers overdo it and sometimes look like idiots...but those aren't the good rappers, thet're not the "real" ones, if u know what im saying? Its just a stupid commercial thing....you obviously havn't heard much good rap music, because really, its not all that bad.....there are some really talented guys out there that just do it for the love of hiphop and the culture of it. Not to dress like a gangsta or sound like a hardass
2005-03-09 [FireGypsy]: yeah well then this wiki shouldnt be an offense to those guys. this wiki is about those hardass gansta losers.
2005-03-09 [wayne]: "yeah well then this wiki shouldnt be an offense to those guys. this wiki is about those hardass gansta losers." The problem with that is the title of the wiki is " Rap sucks" and you don't differentiate between rap driven largely by consumerism and rap that isn't
2005-03-09 [Chakan]: What the Hell!?!? If I put this picture up here and said all rockers were like this guy, Leathered up and painted like this guy, you'd be pissed. That's how we see this wiki...Honestl
2005-03-09 [Love like Winter.]: Ok, I see your point with the metel head in your picture but I'm not basing my hate on race, I just don't like rap *shrugs*
2005-03-09 [Chakan]: And Not ALL rappers dress like Nelly or whoever,I know alot of rappers that dress quite cleanly infact.Im sorry to say it [FireGypsy] but you really don't understand the Rap/Hip-hop culture at all.All you know is the stuff they put all over the TV, and that's not all it is.That's just all you see.
2005-03-10 [wayne]: Corporations exploit the dipiction of black culture stereotypes. Sure there's some underground emcees that end up on a major record label (blackalicious,
2005-03-10 [Love like Winter.]: Music should be an escape from the real world not a reminder!
2005-03-10 [wayne]: There's many hip hop artists that offer that too, but i strongly disagree with you. Music is a powerful median,so it's only logical that people use it to get their messages out.
2005-03-10 [Love like Winter.]: I know, I know, I agree with that too... Thats really what punk was about, back in the good old day, lol... But hearing about politics or drugs all the time can really bring you down (or is that just me???)
2005-03-10 [wayne]: If i listen to anything for a long time it gets boring so i don't do it, so i don't know if it'd bring me down. But i doubt it would, although i have heard songs that do "bring me down"....Dance With the Devil orrrrr You Never Know both by Immortal Technique are ones i can think of off the top of my head. But neither one of those is about drugs or politics
2005-03-10 [FireGypsy]: You guys, i cant exactly put up all the names of the shitty rappers out there. I cant exactly put this wiki towards the circus tents idiots. But thats what this wiki is for. The moronic rappers who make themselves look like idiots. So dont take offence to the ones that are good okay? Because this wiki only applies to any rapper that fits these decriptions. And that picture. Isnt that cradle of filth? Thats hardcore heavy scream metal. You pick one crazy band out of them all. I dont know of any other band besides cradle of filth that paints themselves and wears all leather like that.
2005-03-10 [wayne]: ok,but...you don't differentiate between the "moronic rappers who make themselves look like idiots" and others.Just read the the whole wiki, you talk about ALL rap.
2005-03-10 [Love like Winter.]: I think that is cradle of filth, I reconize that hair! lol...
2005-03-11 [FireGypsy]: lol i just said that XD Yeah because rap SUCKS! i dont like it. If your going to speak to a drum beat then its not music. So im just going to say rap sucks in general. this is for ALL RAP HATERS! not just select few.
2005-03-11 [wayne]: so native american tribes didn't have music, african tribes didn't have music...and they still don't. And there's more than just a drum beat,there's also a sample. And you're allowed to have your opinion of "rap" but when your opinion is based on what little knowledge you have of it, it's only natural it's going to be attacked.
2005-03-12 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: yeah exactly......t
2005-03-12 [FireGypsy]: oh im sorry they speak to a drum beat, and keyboard synths and the same beat everyone else uses.
2005-03-13 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: ummm no, actually, you have no idea what you're talking about....most of the guys belong to record companies like Death Row or Aftermath that produce their own beats, they might take samples from other songs but they don't copy the whole song like some other people....and besides, ALL music has that, even rock, people take other peoples songs and make it their own....its not a hiphop thing...
2005-03-13 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: most of their stuff is beats made up by the actual guys....its their own shit..
2005-03-13 [FireGypsy]: lol i wasnt saying they were stealing beats im saying that wether they created the beats or not, all they do is speak to a backup drum beat!!!!!!
2005-03-13 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: yes but its more than just speaking, its got rythm and they've got a style...its way more than just speaking...the
2005-03-14 [FireGypsy]: Yeah for the linkin park and ozzy songs that they ruined lol. Basically. all rap is is poetry put against a simple drum beat.
2005-03-14 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: ok....and to some people (like us) its appealing.....
2005-03-15 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: just by the way....which linkin park and ozzy songs did they "ruin"?
2005-03-15 [FireGypsy]: umm the only two that they put their crappy lyrics over....
2005-03-15 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: ok..i get that....but which songs are u talking about?
2005-03-16 [FireGypsy]: umm crazy train and numb i think....
2005-03-17 [wayne]: Isn't music supposed to be poetry?
2005-03-17 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: yeah, exactly....poe
2005-03-17 [FireGypsy]: ugh i freaking know that!!! Alls i said was they ruined it lol!!!!!!!!!!!
2005-03-17 [FireGypsy]: poetry is beautiful when it doesnt talk about killing people that you once loved, getting so high you start seeing things, shooting people, using drugs, violence, violence, and more violence.
2005-03-17 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: yes well if they ruined it then it was linkin park who ruined it too.....
2005-03-17 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: and in my opinion all poetry is beautiful...no matter what the subject matter. If someone writes a poem about their tragic life and all the pain they see and how they want to kill them selves or something...pe
2005-03-17 [wayne]: i agree with what ravendark said. But as we've established earlier, that's not the only kind of hip hop music there is. And is it just me, or is this going in circles?
2005-03-17 [*ShawtY* (this place Bcumn so boring!)]: yeah i think it is.....well iv said what i have to say....i dont disrespect other peoples music, so i dont want mine to be disrespected either....that
2005-03-21 [FireGypsy]: and i already said, this wiki is directed towards shitty rap. If you think your type of rap is better and i havent heard it, thats fine. the rap ive heard so far treats women like shit, is a bad influence on children, its fuck this fuck that shit ass dick cunt whore bitch cocaine shitfaced everything! Rap is more of a bitching to drums than anything i guess.
2005-04-21 [Dwemer]: Ermm, do you guys know this number? Snoop Dogg ft Justin Timberlake - Signs : That one isn't so bad, is it?
2005-05-13 [shadowfire09]: i think all rap sucks!!!!!!!!!
2005-05-14 [FireGypsy]: *applauds [shadowfire09]*
2005-06-18 [Taking Back Jo]: oh come on people, rap does NOT suck!!!!!!!!!!
2005-06-19 [FireGypsy]: lol yeah it does!
2005-06-23 [wayne]: stubborn, ignorant people suck too
2005-06-23 [FireFighter]: KICK ASS
2005-06-23 [FireGypsy]: im around rap almost every second of the day. My works music is all rap. Ignorance would be if i had never really listened to rap and then stated how much they suck. But i have hearn rap. A lot of it. And it sucks, greatly. If you can find a rapper that doesnt swear, talk about being shovanistic, talk about killing someone or shotting guns, talk about being in a gang, talk about drugs, talk about "bitches and hoes" then ill tell you that some rap doesnt suck. But i dont want to listen to that shit. Rap about something peaceful and nice for ones. I dont need to hear how many girls you raped last night or how much heroine you shot up or how much you
2005-06-23 [FireGypsy]: hate your wife and want to kill her. For sucks sake talk about something interesting or nice! They dont sing, thats a negative, so id think that if they want to at least make up for their spoken and not sung words, then they should speak about something not so violent and retarded. Oh and they need to learn to speak english. It seems that 98% of all rappers cant even speak proper english.
2005-06-24 [Chakan]: And all the Metal punk rockers who sound like all they say is DIE DIE DIE???, is that supposed to be "nicer" than Rap?. What you people just fail to understand is that Rap, just like Rock, is an art.The only reason you guys hate rap is becuase none of you understand it's words, it's meanings.And yes they do go deeper than putting a bullet in someones chest.And it's not like Rock doesn't talk about hating anybody or bad shit either..."Stai
2005-06-24 [FireGypsy]: Rockers, write their own music, write their own riff and beats, write their own solos. It takes so much talent to take 4 instruments and make eaach of their different riffs and beats go together in sync to make a song that sounds amazing. No matter what the lyrics say, the instrumentalis
2005-06-24 [FireGypsy]: and most rockers dont scream die die die. thats more hardcore music. Screamo and shit. What about the good rock music. and punk music. Like green day. Even metallica. they have been around for over 20 years, sure they are sucking now but they made some great music. Rappers, just plain suck at what they do. And i can understand their words perfectly, i work at roller kingdom and all they play is rap rap rap. So i know all the songs inside and out. I know all the lyrics. And i know they all SUCK!
2005-06-24 [FireGypsy]: Oh and Led Zeppelin is a good band, saintanic message or not, ive heard it played backwards, its just a coincidence.
2005-06-25 [Chakan]: That's friggin lunacy.Your main argument it seems is the fact that the beat wasn't made with real insturments.An
2005-06-25 [Chakan]: And from the rock songs I heard, I havn't heard a whole lot that even have a positive message to them anyway.Now, im sure there are some out there, but the same goes for rap and Hip-hop.And it's not about listening to the words, it's the message.It's alot like judging someone from the clothes they wear instead of their personality.An
2005-07-06 [wayne]: I guess some people have a short attention span, because I've gone through all this already.
2005-07-09 [Dwemer]: Everyone who think Snoop Dogg vs Dre - Still Dre sucks has a problem ;)
2006-02-22 [Monster Master]: I've complained with a friend lately and she's complained that Ozzy and Slipknot and the heavy shit is the music of the devil. Dude, music sells. The music is for the people, there is tons of people who are in love with that kind of shit.
2006-05-18 [dude08]: Rap Does Too Suck Its So Fuckin Gay
2006-05-22 [Sieg Heil!!.PK]: There are some rappers who have good things to say. But their albums don't sell. Can you say, apocalypse?
2006-10-02 [Andy8178]: Fourth comment of the year! W00tt!!
2006-12-18 [Xizenaroth]: Rap just sucks. end of, no matter what is said it will always be shite i won 50 quid on a bet i could make a rap song on a keyboard, i pushed a button to make a beat then i spoke out a poem i found in my GCSE exam book and they thought it was amazing, how stupid
2007-02-09 [Andy8178]: First comment of the year! W00tt!!
2007-10-05 [Sian - Louise. . x]: oo i i dnt think raps tht bad i mean some people are rubbish but thn 50 cent is reli gurd
2007-10-06 [FireGypsy]: No, he isn't. He is one of the WORST rappers out there.
I made this wiki years go haha! I forgot all about it.
2007-10-06 [Andy8178]: Eminem is one of the few I like... because it actually sounds like art when he raps, instead of just talking about bitches, hoes, and 'killin that nigga'
2007-10-07 [FireGypsy]: Ehh, still, I find his music kind of annoying.
2007-10-07 [Andy8178]: I like the word, 'entertaining' better :P
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